Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/29/1999 03:30 PM Senate STA

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              HB 189-AHFC ACQUISITION OF BUILDING                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BITTNEY, legislative liaison for the Alaska Housing Finance                                                                
Corporation (AHFC), gave the following presentation on HB 189.  The                                                             
measure is one of two sections; it authorizes AHFC to purchase the                                                              
office building it currently occupies.  AHFC was approached about                                                               
purchasing the building by the owner about one year ago.  The                                                                   
purchase will result in a significant savings to AHFC, so AHFC felt                                                             
compelled to forward the proposal to its Board of Directors.  After                                                             
review, the Board of Directors passed a resolution supporting the                                                               
purchase and authorized him to present the proposal to the                                                                      
Legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BITTNEY explained the contents of the fiscal note.  The fiscal                                                              
note shows a budget reduction of $496,600 in its contractual                                                                    
component, which reflects a savings in AHFC's lease cost.  AHFC's                                                               
current lease expense for the year exceeds $1 million.  That cost                                                               
would be eliminated, and the difference between that amount and the                                                             
reduction in the fiscal note would be the maintenance and operation                                                             
costs of the building.  Two funding sources would be used:  AHFC is                                                             
asking for a reduction in its federal and corporate receipts.  AHFC                                                             
uses both of those sources to fund its current lease payments.                                                                  
Because HUD's public housing functions are managed by AHFC, AHFC                                                                
can charge a portion of its lease costs to the federal dollars it                                                               
receives from HUD.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 180                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked who is responsible for the minor and major                                                                  
repairs and maintenance according to the current lease.  MR.                                                                    
BITTNEY replied AHFC has occupied the building for two years, and                                                               
has a ten year lease with two five year renewal options.  He                                                                    
deferred to Mike Buller for the details of the lease.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MIKE BULLER, Chief Administrative Officer of AHFC, answered the                                                                 
repairs and maintenance are the responsibility of the building                                                                  
owner.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD questioned how much has been spent on repairs and                                                                 
maintenance of the building.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN REYNOLDS, Schwamm and Frampton, stated he has managed the                                                                   
building for the past seven or eight years.  He was unable to                                                                   
provide the amount spent on repairs and maintenance over the past                                                               
24 month period, but stated no major expenses were incurred during                                                              
that time period.  His budget for general day-to-day budget is                                                                  
$1500 per month, and he typically spends that amount.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked if that $1500 per month expense should be                                                                   
considered in the operating cost.  MR. REYNOLDS said that is                                                                    
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked when the last roof repair took place.  MR.                                                                  
REYNOLDS answered in the summer of 1997, some roof repairs were                                                                 
done.  Those repairs included the resurfacing, replacing, and                                                                   
resealing the perimeter flashing.  Regarding major expenses, he                                                                 
noted that an underground fuel tank for the back-up generator was                                                               
removed 18 months ago at a cost of about $20,000.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 228                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD questioned how long the current owners have owned the                                                             
property, and how far back the maintenance history records are                                                                  
available.  MR. REYNOLDS explained the current owners funded the                                                                
Teamsters Local 959, who built the building in the mid 1980's. As                                                               
the result of a bankruptcy, the building reverted to the current                                                                
owners in 1989.  MR. REYNOLDS added he has managed the building                                                                 
since 1991 and could provide the maintenance record from that time.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked who the owners are.  MR. REYNOLDS stated it is                                                              
a union trust named the Union Labor Life Insurance Company                                                                      
(ULLICO), based in Washington, D.C., and that the building was                                                                  
referred to as the "Teamster Building" for many years and is also                                                               
known as the "Jesse Carr Building."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked what the debt ratio would be and whether the                                                                
savings would include the $1500 per month in maintenance costs.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MIKE BULLER explained AHFC planned to issue debt for the purchase                                                               
of the building.  AHFC projected a cost of $27,000 per year for                                                                 
major repairs and maintenance through the remaining 18 years of the                                                             
lease, for the purpose of comparison to the lease purchase option.                                                              
The total sum budgeted for major repairs and maintenance is about                                                               
$600,000.  MR. BULLER referred to two spreadsheets provided by Mr.                                                              
Bittney, and noted the total cost of leasing the building for the                                                               
next 18 years would amount to $19 million.  Under the "buy"                                                                     
scenario, the cost to purchase the building over the next 18 years                                                              
would amount to $10,076,000.  That number includes all maintenance,                                                             
repairs, and operating expenses.  The net savings to AHFC would be                                                              
approximately $9,887,000.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 298                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked how the projected maintenance costs were                                                                    
calculated.  MR. BULLER indicated those numbers came from a                                                                     
complete appraisal of the property done by Kincaid and Riely for                                                                
the current owner.  The $27,000 maintenance cost per year was                                                                   
adjusted for three percent inflation for each year thereafter.                                                                  
CHAIRMAN WARD asked Mr. Buller to supply a copy of the appraisal to                                                             
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD questioned how much AHFC would borrow to purchase the                                                             
building.  MR. BULLER replied AHFC would initially purchase the                                                                 
building with cash but would bond for 100 percent of the purchase                                                               
amount at a future date and reimburse itself.  The cost of bonding                                                              
has been included in the spreadsheets.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 332                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked for clarification of the building's ownership                                                               
history.  MR. BULLER stated ULLICO originally financed the                                                                      
construction of the building by the Teamsters in the mid 1980's.                                                                
When the Teamsters filed for bankruptcy in the late 1980's,                                                                     
ownership reverted to ULLICO which has owned it since.  The                                                                     
Teamsters vacated the building two years ago, and through an RFP                                                                
process, AHFC moved in.  AHFC did not have the option of purchasing                                                             
the building at that time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD questioned whether any problems remain with the                                                                   
underground storage tank.  MR. REYNOLDS said that DEC signed off on                                                             
that project, and the documentation has been supplied to AHFC.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked who initiated the contact about purchasing the                                                             
building.  MR. BULLER said the owners decided to sell the building                                                              
and contacted AHFC to give it the first shot.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 350                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked why the purchase price is $150,000 more than                                                               
the appraisal price.  MR. BULLER replied the initial appraisal was                                                              
completed March 1, 1998; a revised appraisal was completed in                                                                   
October, 1998, and simply through inflation, the price increased.                                                               
The current purchase price is the appraisal price of $6.65 million.                                                             
AHFC hired the Appraisal Company of Alaska which confirmed that                                                                 
appraisal amount.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN questioned whether the committee was provided with                                                               
a copy of the confirmation of the appraisal.  MR. BULLER said it                                                                
was.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. REYNOLDS added a full MAI appraisal was done, in which several                                                              
approaches are reviewed, such as an income approach.  By comparing                                                              
the analyses, a value is determined.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked about the life expectancy of the roof.  MR.                                                                 
REYNOLDS replied the life expectancy of the building is considered                                                              
to be 35 to 42 years.  He was unaware of the life expectancy of the                                                             
roof, but offered to provide Chairman Ward with that information at                                                             
a later date.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 390                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked if the first appraisal was completed in March                                                             
of 1998, an update was completed in October of 1998, and a review                                                               
and confirmation was completed on December 18, 1998.  MR. BULLER                                                                
said that was correct.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON questioned whether the prospective BP-ARCO merger                                                                 
will affect the appraisal price of commercial real estate in                                                                    
Anchorage in the near future.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. REYNOLDS said the potential merger would not occur for nine                                                                 
months to one year.  If new office space comes on to the market at                                                              
that time, it will not be located in the same vicinity as AHFC's                                                                
location, therefore it is AHFC's opinion that it will not affect                                                                
values in a negative way.  Anchorage currently has an occupancy                                                                 
rate of 93 to 95 percent for commercial office space.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLER offered to ask the Appraisal Company of Alaska to                                                                    
provide an opinion on that question.  CHAIRMAN WARD asked Mr.                                                                   
Buller to do so, and to forward the information to committee                                                                    
members, especially Senators Wilken, Green, and Phillips, who are                                                               
members of the Senate Finance Committee.  MR. BULLER stated he                                                                  
would also provide the maintenance costs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 432                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PHILLIPS asked if a building inspection will be done before                                                             
the purchase negotiations begin.  MR. BULLER indicated a complete                                                               
inspection has been done, and that he would forward a copy of it to                                                             
committee members as well.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. REYNOLDS informed committee members the due diligence that was                                                              
performed by AHFC included review by a structural, electrical and                                                               
mechanical engineer, and an architect.  He assumed reviewed the                                                                 
building for compliance with their respective building codes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD questioned whether a commercial code must be approved                                                             
before the purchase transaction is completed.  MR. REYNOLDS said                                                                
not that he was aware of.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON moved CSHB 189(FIN) and attached fiscal notes to the                                                              
next committee of referral.  There being no objection, the motion                                                               
carried.                                                                                                                        

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